DAVID GREENE, HOST:
Now, let's remember how we got here and what the future might hold for this country that is key in the U.S. fight against terrorism. The Houthis, who as we just heard are running the capital, are from Yemen's north. They practice an offshoot of Shiite Islam called Zaidism and are believed to be supported by Iran. They're also believed to be working with a former president who Yemenis ousted in the Arab Spring. A lot of uncertainty here. Let's bring in another voice. It's Letta Tayler, she's a senior researcher on terrorism at Human Rights Watch and an expert on Yemen. We spoke to her about the Houthis.
LETTA TAYLER: They are a real wild card. They're a rebel group from northern Yemen. They have rapidly morphed into the armed faction of a full-fledged political movement. And I guess the most important thing for Americans to know is that part of this Houthis slogan is - God is great. But then, it continues - Death to America, death to Israel.
GREENE: Wow. Well, all of that makes it sound very disturbing. I mean, does that suggest that this country's moving into a very dangerous place?
TAYLER: Well, it could indeed be moving into a very dangerous place. But despite this slogan, the Houthis have not harmed Americans nor have they harmed Israel, it's AQAP.
GREENE: This is al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula...
TAYLER: Exactly, yes.
GREENE: ...Which has presence in Yemen, OK.
TAYLER: AQAP is the group in Yemen that is kidnapping - and in some cases killing - foreigners. It's not the Houthis.
GREENE: Well, this sounds like there's a lot of confusion when it comes to the politics going forward.
TAYLER: Indeed.
GREENE: Let's just say the Houthis are able to fully take over the country, is there any hope that the United States and the West could continue working with them to fight al-Qaida in this country, or does the U.S. fight against al-Qaida in Yemen fall apart?
TAYLER: Well, ironically, the one thing that we know the Houthis and the U.S. government have in common is that they both want to get rid of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula. So it may not be entirely implausible to envision the Houthis and the United States joining in the fight against AQAP.
GREENE: There is something incredibly striking about this narrative - that you have a country that overthrows a leader during the Arab Spring, the United States is fighting terrorism there. The United States, in theory, might have to work with that former president who was ousted and a group that has called for death to America, if they want to continue the fight against terrorism.
TAYLER: This is often the way Yemen is. Yemen's politics and intrigue makes the word Byzantine seem simplistic.
GREENE: (Laughter).
TAYLER: We don't know if Yemen is really sliding into chaos or if it's just continuing to hover on the brink. But we do know that this is a serious challenge for the U.S. government.
GREENE: Combating terrorism in Yemen is so important to the United States. I wonder where that is on the priority list of the Yemeni people. Is that a top priority?
TAYLER: Combating terrorism is a priority for the Yemeni people, but it's not nearly as high on the priority list as ending government corruption, creating jobs, providing a good education system, ensuring that the country does not run out of water. So these are the concerns of Yemenis. Most Yemenis see AQAP as more of a problem of the U.S. government. And they see the U.S. government coming in not to help fix its own problems, but rather to take out elements of AQAP that may be a threat to the U.S. but not to resolve any of the deep problems of Yemen.
GREENE: You have traveled to this country a great deal. And I'm just thinking about the list of things we have talked about - violence, a power struggle, a Shiite rebel group that is fighting for power. Meanwhile, this is all taking place in the poorest country in the region. Sounds like a lot of terrible stuff. Does anything give you hope for the future of this country?
TAYLER: (Laughter). I think the thing that gives me the most hope is the Yemeni people. There are so many people filling the squares and the streets of Yemen who genuinely want change, who will continue to press their demands peacefully no matter how often they are tempted to try to shed blood. Let's not cross this country off just yet as a failed state.
GREENE: Letta Tayler, thanks so much for talking to us. We appreciate it.
TAYLER: Thanks you so much. It's been a pleasure.
GREENE: She's a senior researcher on counterterrorism and a Yemen expert for Human Rights Watch.